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我先上google查一下這報導的真實性
     
      
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舊 2009-01-12, 01:17 PM #11
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之前看過文章,google的伺服器是自製的,處理資料和耗電量的效率是比一般泛用型伺服器好的,所以其實用yahoo和MSN來搜尋的排碳量應該更高才對
 
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所以 ?

結論是大家都不上 Google, 那些電腦就會自動關機省電 ?!

實際上呢 ? 大家都不搜尋, Google 電腦白白開著還是一樣浪費電力.

如果搜尋量降低成為 1/2000, 這時候一個人去搜尋. 哇... 這個人浪費了煮 2000 壺茶的電力.

這些專家還真不是普通的鑽牛角尖啊....

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Revealed: the environmental impact of Google searches

Physicist Alex Wissner-Gross says that performing two Google searches uses up as much energy as boiling the kettle for a cup of tea

January 11, 2009


Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research.

While millions of people tap into Google without considering the environment, a typical search generates about 7g of CO2 Boiling a kettle generates about 15g. “Google operates huge data centres around the world that consume a great deal of power,” said Alex Wissner-Gross, a Harvard University physicist whose research on the environmental impact of computing is due out soon. “A Google search has a definite environmental impact.”

Google is secretive about its energy consumption and carbon footprint. It also refuses to divulge the locations of its data centres. However, with more than 200m internet searches estimated globally daily, the electricity consumption and greenhouse gas emissions caused by computers and the internet is provoking concern. A recent report by Gartner, the industry analysts, said the global IT industry generated as much greenhouse gas as the world’s airlines - about 2% of global CO2 emissions. “Data centres are among the most energy-intensive facilities imaginable,” said Evan Mills, a scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California. Banks of servers storing billions of web pages require power.

Though Google says it is in the forefront of green computing, its search engine generates high levels of CO2 because of the way it operates. When you type in a Google search for, say, “energy saving tips”, your request doesn’t go to just one server. It goes to several competing against each other.

It may even be sent to servers thousands of miles apart. Google’s infrastructure sends you data from whichever produces the answer fastest. The system minimises delays but raises energy consumption. Google has servers in the US, Europe, Japan and China.

Wissner-Gross has submitted his research for publication by the US Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers and has also set up a website www.CO2stats.com. “Google are very efficient but their primary concern is to make searches fast and that means they have a lot of extra capacity that burns energy,” he said.

Google said: “We are among the most efficient of all internet search providers.”

Wissner-Gross has also calculated the CO2 emissions caused by individual use of the internet. His research indicates that viewing a simple web page generates about 0.02g of CO2 per second. This rises tenfold to about 0.2g of CO2 a second when viewing a website with complex images, animations or videos.

A separate estimate from John Buckley, managing director of carbonfootprint.com, a British environmental consultancy, puts the CO2 emissions of a Google search at between 1g and 10g, depending on whether you have to start your PC or not. Simply running a PC generates between 40g and 80g per hour, he says. of CO2 Chris Goodall, author of Ten Technologies to Save the Planet, estimates the carbon emissions of a Google search at 7g to 10g (assuming 15 minutes’ computer use).

Nicholas Carr, author of The Big Switch, Rewiring the World, has calculated that maintaining a character (known as an avatar) in the Second Life virtual reality game, requires 1,752 kilowatt hours of electricity per year. That is almost as much used by the average Brazilian.

“It’s not an unreasonable comparison,” said Liam Newcombe, an expert on data centres at the British Computer Society. “It tells us how much energy westerners use on entertainment versus the energy poverty in some countries.”

Though energy consumption by computers is growing - and the rate of growth is increasing - Newcombe argues that what matters most is the type of usage.

If your internet use is in place of more energy-intensive activities, such as driving your car to the shops, that’s good. But if it is adding activities and energy consumption that would not otherwise happen, that may pose problems.

Newcombe cites Second Life and Twitter, a rapidly growing website whose 3m users post millions of messages a month. Last week Stephen Fry, the TV presenter, was posting “tweets” from New Zealand, imparting such vital information as “Arrived in Queenstown. Hurrah. Full of bungy jumping and ‘activewear’ shops”, and “Honestly. NZ weather makes UK look stable and clement”.

Jonathan Ross was Twittering even more, with posts such as “Am going to muck out the pigs. It will be cold, but I’m not the type to go on about it” and “Am now back indoors and have put on fleecy tracksuit and two pairs of socks”. Ross also made various “tweets” trying to ascertain whether Jeremy Clarkson was a Twitter user or not. Yesterday the Top Gear presenter cleared up the matter, saying: “I am not a twit. And Jonathan Ross is.”

Such internet phenomena are not simply fun and hot air, Newcombe warns: the boom in such services has a carbon cost.




延伸報導:
How you can help reduce the footprint of the Web
Browsing the internet contributes to global warming by generating extra greenhouse gases – but could the web be made greener? Jonathan Leake talks to Dr Alex Wissner-Gross a physicist from Harvard University
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我覺得我又看到了另一個環保法西斯人士............
那他又是用什麼網路搜尋引擎咧??

先問他研究經費是誰出的?搞不好是傳統媒體業者
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地球有它自己的循環,正常的二氣化碳排放也是循環的一環,一直去強調真的很奇怪,除非你從地球上"消失"不然不管作什麼事情都嘛會產生二氣化碳阿,就連你死掉腐爛的過程都會產生,試問該如何完全避免呢

美國人老是要把他們國家的問題轉嫁到全世界去,這才是問題所在吧

我也覺得一邊補貼汽車業與高耗能且建築過量的房地產業,或推動反機車的種種禁摩政策,還一邊喊節能減碳,真可笑之至。

可是很多國政府都這德行
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有沒有人會換算
7公克的二氧化碳等於用大同電鍋煮飯可以煮多久呢?
這樣我比較好懂
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美國軍事單位 情報單位用的主機量會比較少嗎 ?
GOOGLE真是樹大招風 又中槍了
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有沒有人會換算
7公克的二氧化碳等於用大同電鍋煮飯可以煮多久呢?
這樣我比較好懂

一度電等於1000W的電器使用一小時,產生約670公克CO2;
電鍋以800W來算,煮一鍋飯以一小時計,會產生536公克CO2,
大約可以搜尋Google77次
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煙火的碳製造量又是多少呢?

當大家一整年錙銖必較算卡路里般地省碳,結果一個晚上全台各地就燒出來了,

然後大家還嫌沒看頭...
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