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無法理解
又不是很專業跟危險誠如你教授所說
那不如不要那麼辛苦讀書
去開公車好了(門檻很高嗎?)
東方思想果然跟西方思想差很大


門檻其實也還是有... 10 年職業大車駕駛駕照無罰單記錄...

這邊的薪水其實很簡單,是完全的供給問題而決定薪資,不是以職業高尚低下。當大家都有好的教育時,誰會想要去倒垃圾?但是當大家教育都不好時,大家都去倒垃圾幹嘛薪水給這麼高?所以美國有些州一個小時倒垃圾給到 US$35 甚至 $40,有些州才 $12... 所以我們這邊自由黨在推廣大學教育便宜,一直來大學說我們一年學費多高多高... 我才不這麼認同... 大家都有大學讀的後果就是白領薪資崩盤,失業率上升(妳都讀大學了還想倒垃圾嗎?)...

台灣的問題應該是供給問題又加上介意職業貴賤問題。不然其實台灣也有不少學徒制的工地工作,起薪也比大學畢業上班族的兩萬二還多...
     
      
舊 2011-08-19, 03:52 AM #161
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臺灣公車司機年薪大概60萬台幣吧
差真多
不過台灣稅收低.消費也低
大概就能抵消過去了吧

以物價來算,台灣的公車司機收入比較高

還有,年薪60萬在台灣是前20%的高收入
 
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舊 2011-08-19, 05:28 AM #162
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Yes, I'll buy your theory on opinion of which it is not counter-able. Yes, my perspective is just another one.

However, the golden rule is still in conflict here. You are right on the value is based on each of his own, but you're missing out that the action is not! Golden rule is not just about self value, but also the way to treat others from this value. If the giver and the receiver does not share the same value, how do you justify as no conflict at all? Since non of the forum member here is that Harvard girl, logically non of us can implement their golden rule to her toward her child and use it as an argument. This ideology is hypothetical imperative. Same deal here, I shouldn't use it to promote sex work is correct, which I didn't. ...


I still don't see the conflict since I'm not sure what you meant by action is not. If one doesn't act based on his own values, it still doesn't change what he believes; it only means he's not strong on principles. People do things they believe to be immoral all the time, they still do it because of the rewards, or because the situation forces them to do so.

True none of us is the students in question, but experiences from socializing and interaction with human in general tell us that few people want their loved ones to do work like prostitution, drug dealer, selling firearms, etc. I said few but I have not seen one.

What do the undergrads believe? Nobody knows for sure, but I think it's a pretty good bet that they would not want their loved ones doing what they do. If they are completely fine with their daughters putting themselves through college selling sex, then they probably really believe there's nothing wrong, and yes, it's nobody's business to interfere....then again, I have not seen a person like this, not without some sort of psychological damage from childhood abuse or whatnot.

Europeans are more liberal than Americans but I still wonder if your professor would still be at ease with her daughter also being a sex worker.
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以前美國不就有個笑話...
某男子到外地開會打電話召妓到酒店.
半小時後妓女來敲門, 男子打開門一看竟是自己在讀大學的女兒.
父女默然對視數分鐘後突然異口同聲說了一句"Don't tell mom."
舊 2011-08-19, 10:45 AM #166
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還好吧
一般公務員
應該也會有55萬年薪

這個簽名檔害我被我媽念...

舊 2011-08-19, 10:48 AM #167
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I still ......



請不要因為你懶得打中文..就在這邊秀你的英文程度..你明明看得懂中文.為何要回復一
堆鬼畫符!!!

請用大家都懂的文字.這也是一種尊重..謝謝..
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這個簽名檔害我被我媽念...

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hpho...6_7514010_n.jpg

糟糕,來不及說"Don't tell mom."
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很多人從台北看天下.....某人的觀點一直都是從加拿大看台灣
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